Crime Judge denies release of recorded interviews with Manson cult member

22:12  13 september  2017
22:12  13 september  2017 Source:   Los Angeles Times

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A 1970 staff file photo of Susan Atkins, left, Patricia Krenwinkel, center, and Leslie Van Houten headed into morning court session. Krenwinkel's request for release at her parole hearing was rejected. Van Houten was granted parole in Chino, Calif., on Wednesday, Sept. 6, 2017. © File photo/Los Angeles Times/TNS A 1970 staff file photo of Susan Atkins, left, Patricia Krenwinkel, center, and Leslie Van Houten headed into morning court session. Krenwinkel's request for release at her parole hearing was rejected. Van Houten was granted parole in Chino, Calif., on Wednesday, Sept. 6, 2017.

LOS ANGELES - A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has denied the release of hours of recorded interviews with one of the convicted killers in Charles Manson's cult.

The taped conversations between Charles "Tex" Watson and his late attorney were made in 1969 - shortly after Watson and other Manson acolytes were arrested. Observers of the case have long viewed the recordings as an unparalleled window into the barbarous slayings carried out by Manson and his so-called "family."

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The recordings have never been made public, and the Los Angeles Police Department said it only recently obtained them.

An attorney for Leslie Van Houten, who was convicted of killing Rosemary and Leno LaBianca, has been trying to unseal the Watson interviews as part of Van Houten's bid for parole.

Leslie Van Houten reacts after hearing she is eligible for parole during a hearing on Wednesday, Sept. 6, 2017 at the California Institution for Women in Corona, Calif. Van Houten, the youngest of Charles Manson's murderous followers, was granted parole by a California board Wednesday. (Stan Lim/Los Angeles Daily News via AP, Pool) © The Associated Press Leslie Van Houten reacts after hearing she is eligible for parole during a hearing on Wednesday, Sept. 6, 2017 at the California Institution for Women in Corona, Calif. Van Houten, the youngest of Charles Manson's murderous followers, was granted parole by a California board Wednesday. (Stan Lim/Los Angeles Daily News via AP, Pool) "Every shred of evidence (in the Manson case) is public record except those tapes," said Rich Pfeiffer, Van Houten's attorney. "They are the most reliable description of what happened."

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Catherine Share told a Los Angeles Superior Court judge that Manson once severely beat her and got a male cult member to vow that if she ever fled the man would hunt her Police said she also was involved in a plot to break Manson and other family members out of prison, though Share denied that.

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But the Los Angeles County district attorney's office has fought the tapes' release, saying that Van Houten cannot obtain evidence after her conviction because she does not face a sentence of death or life without parole.

Prosecutors also say Van Houten, 68, could get evidence that would have been available only at the time of her trial. Because the tapes were protected by attorney-client privilege then, Van Houten would not have had access to them.

In his ruling issued Tuesday, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge William C. Ryan agreed with prosecutors, adding that after reviewing a 326-page transcript, he did not find the content of the tapes relevant.

"But even if Van Houten was entitled to the Tex Watson Interview Tapes, they would add nothing not already well known," Ryan wrote. "Watson does talk about in several places how Charles Manson had a powerful influence over him and other members of the Manson family, but that information is also very well known."

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Pfeiffer said he planned to appeal the ruling, and he has said in court papers that the tapes could help Gov. Jerry Brown make a "more informed decision" as he weighs whether to release Van Houten, who was again granted parole, from prison.

The District Attorney's Office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The DA's office had claimed that the tapes' release would compromise ongoing investigations, but an LAPD detective told the judge that no open investigations would be undermined by the tapes' release.

Last week, a panel of state commissioners granted Van Houten parole. The panel's decision is undergoing a legal review, and in about four months, the governor will have to decide whether to uphold, reverse or modify the parole decision. Brown also could send the decision to a full review by the full board of state parole commissioners.

Manson, 82, and other acolytes are still behind bars. Watson and Patricia Krenwinkel each have been denied parole several times. Susan Atkins, who was denied parole 13 times, died in prison in 2009.

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